Serious Baseball: Jim Edmonds

by Frank Bundy III
November 2, 2005

WARNING: This article contains some statistics that aren’t in the mainstream, but should be. Just a fair warning!

Do you know how good Jim Edmonds is? I bet you don’t. I bet you’re thinking, “Yes I do, Jim Edmonds is a really good hitter, and a great fielder.”

While that is true, I bet you don’t really know how great Edmonds is. Let’s put it this way, do you know that he’s better than more than half of the center fielders currently in the Hall of Fame?

To start to prove this let’s start by looking at Edmonds batting statistics compared the current Hall of Fame center fielders (that we have stats for), in this chart sorted by On-Base Plus Slugging Percentage (OPS):
Player AB AVG HR RBI OBP SLG OPS
Mickey Mantle 8102 0.298 536 1509 0.421 0.557 0.978
Joe DiMaggio 6821 0.325 361 1537 0.398 0.579 0.977
Ty Cobb 11434 0.366 117 1938 0.433 0.512 0.945
Willie Mays 10881 0.302 660 1903 0.384 0.557 0.941
Hack Wilson 4760 0.307 244 1063 0.395 0.545 0.940
Earl Averill 6353 0.318 238 1164 0.395 0.534 0.929
Tris Speaker 10195 0.345 117 1529 0.428 0.500 0.928
Jim Edmonds 5557 0.291 331 998 0.384 0.543 0.927
Duke Snider 7161 0.295 407 1333 0.380 0.540 0.920
Billy Hamilton 6269 0.344 40 739 0.455 0.432 0.887
Larry Doby 5348 0.283 253 970 0.386 0.490 0.876
Earle Combs 5746 0.325 58 632 0.397 0.462 0.859
Kirby Puckett 7244 0.318 207 1085 0.360 0.477 0.837
Hugh Duffy 7042 0.324 106 1302 0.384 0.449 0.833
Edd Roush 7363 0.323 68 981 0.369 0.446 0.815
Richie Ashburn 8365 0.308 29 1322 0.369 0.382 0.751
Max Carey 9363 0.285 70 800 0.361 0.386 0.747
Lloyd Waner 7772 0.316 27 596 0.353 0.393 0.746


According to OPS, Edmonds ranks 8th among the current crop of center fielders in the Hall of Fame. That makes him better than ten others. If you have read any of my past articles though, you know how much I value defense and how I believe it should be included when analyzing any player (s).

Now, we all know Edmonds is a tremendous fielder, but exactly how good? To try and figure this out, I will compare him to the above center fielders using Fielding Runs Above Replacement (FRAR.) This is a statistic that measures fielding ability over at Baseball Prospectus.com. Please click on the link to learn more about it.

Since FRAR is an accumulative statistic it unfairly favors players who played for a longer period of time. To offset this, I have chosen to divide each player’s FRAR by his total amount games played. This will give us a rate statistics that will let us know exactly how good of a fielder each player was, when he played:

Player GP FRAR FRAR/GP
Tris Speaker 2789 727 0.2607
Max Carey 2476 556 0.2246
Edd Roush 1967 429 0.2181
Hugh Duffy 1737 371 0.2136
Ty Cobb 3035 628 0.2069
Willie Mays 2992 594 0.1985
Earl Averill 1668 316 0.1894
Billy Hamilton 1591 299 0.1879
Joe Dimaggio 1736 306 0.1763
Jim Edmonds 1587 263 0.1657
Richie Ashburn 2189 360 0.1645
Lloyd Waner 1993 323 0.1621
Kirby Puckett 1783 264 0.1481
Larry Doby 1533 209 0.1363
Hack Wilson 1348 181 0.1343
Earle Combs 1455 165 0.1134
Duke Snider 2143 235 0.1097
Mickey Mantle 2401 263 0.1095
       

This is a true testament to how good defensively the average center fielder is that is currently in the Hall of Fame. Edmonds, considered one of the best ever to field his position, ranks 10th out of 18 players inducted. He’s actually below average compared to these great fielders.

Now we know how good of a fielder Edmonds is, but we need a way to combine what each player did offensively with these numbers to get a true measure of the total production of each player. Is there a way to do this? Yes, there is, and it’s by using another statistic over at Baseball Prospectus called Wins Above Replacement Player (WARP).

WARP is an all-inclusive statistic that includes what each player contributed offensively, and defensively. There are three levels of WARP called WARP1, WARP2, and WARP3.

WARP1 is a measurement of Wins Above Replacement Player with no adjustments for difficulty/ or competition of the league they played in.

WARP2 is WARP1 adjusted for the difficulty/competition of the league that the player played in, compared to the overall difficulty of all leagues since the beginning of baseball. This puts all players on the same playing field, from all eras.

WARP3 is WARP2 expanded to 162 games to compensate for shortened seasons.

Since WARP3 is era-adjusted we can compare players of different eras, which luckily, is exactly what we need to do for this analysis.

Like I did for FRAR above, I will make WARP3 into a rate statistic since it is an accumulative stat. Also, as I did with FRAR, I will use each player’s total amount of games played as my divisor for WARP3.

Following is the ultimate table for comparing the current Hall of Fame center fielders to Jim Edmonds. It effectively portrays each player’s offensive and defensive production adjusted for era:

Player GP WARP3 WARP3/GP
Willie Mays 2992 207.8 0.06945
Joe Dimaggio 1736 118.7 0.06838
Mickey Mantle 2401 154.2 0.06422
Ty Cobb 3035 194.5 0.06409
Tris Speaker 2789 177.9 0.06379
Jim Edmonds 1587 95.7 0.06030
Billy Hamilton 1591 87.9 0.05525
Kirby Puckett 1783 91.9 0.05154
Larry Doby 1533 75.6 0.04932
Earl Averill 1668 81.9 0.04910
Duke Snider 2143 100.3 0.04680
Richie Ashburn 2189 100.2 0.04577
Hack Wilson 1348 61.3 0.04547
Edd Roush 1967 78.2 0.03976
Hugh Duffy 1737 67.1 0.03863
Earle Combs 1455 53.6 0.03684
Max Carey 2476 86.9 0.03510
Lloyd Waner 1993 55.8 0.02800


According to this all-inclusive metric, when Edmonds is included on this list, he ranks as the 6th best center fielder.

If Jim Edmonds retired today he sould be a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame, and it would be a damn shame if he weren’t considered for it. Like I said at the beginning of the article though, I bet you didn’t know that, did you?

Now I know I may have gotten a little complicated with statistics like FRAR and WARP3 in those last two tables for you traditional baseball fans, and you may think those stats are a bunch of bologna.

Well, if such is the case, the first chart contains more traditional baseball metrics (the one sorted by OPS) and may be easier to read. According to that chart, which ranks Edmonds 8th among current Hall of Fame center fielders, meaning he is a Hall of Famer according those metrics as well. Either way you look at it, with complicated “new-school” statistics, or easy ones, Jim Edmonds is a Hall of Famer.

Betcha didn’t know that, did ya?

Thank you for reading. If you have any questions, comments, concerns, or suggestions, please do not hesitate to email me at frnkbndy@yahoo.com.

 

 

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